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River Thames Scheme consultation Dec 2022

The latest River Thames Scheme consultation, on proposals for routes and landscaping, is open 8 November 2022 until 20 December 2022.  The new consultation includes an exciting option for active travel which would be very positive for Weybridge residents — the potential creation of a new ‘active travel’ pedestrian/cycle bridge crossing from Desborough to Shepperton. We understand that the RTS budget does not currently include this, but if there is strong support for the proposal, who knows… See below for links, and share your views.

PPDRA has been active in RTS stakeholder consultations from the outset, seeking to ensure that the scheme, which includes a relief channel discharging opposite Desborough Island, has a positive impact locally. We have supported proposals for lowering the riverbed downstream of Desborough, rather than widening Desborough Cut (which would displace the Thames Path), stressed the importance of conserving Desborough Island, and have promoted the benefits of including a new pedestrian/cycle bridge.

Here is a link to the RTS online questionnaire.

“Depending on the amount of information you wish to include, it could take as little as 5 minutes”

“All responses should be received by Tuesday 20 December 2022. If you want to read more about the scheme before you answer the questions, please look at our Consultation information. “

 

You can read more about previous RTS consultations and PPDRA questions and input on this website, including:

  • 2014:  Flood Diversion Coming To Weybridge
  • 2015:  Will the River Thames Scheme increase flood risk downstream?
  • 2016:  OPINION: Thames Flood Diversion – Time For A Rethink?
  • 2016:  Flood Updates — River Thames Scheme interim answers
  • 2016:  Walton Lane Environment Agency flood meeting (flow models & options)
  • 2017:  RTS Walton Lane Flood Meeting Update (detailed flood modelling)

For information here is a copy of the personally submitted responses to the 2022 RTS Consultation from PPDRA Chair, Miles Macleod:

MM River Thames Scheme consultation responses

Question 4

  1. Just downstream from Desborough Cut we are proposing lowering the riverbed. How much do you agree or disagree with this approach?

MM response:

Strongly support.

There were some very strong objections, from local residents and other users of the Thames Path, to widening the Desborough Cut on either bank:

– Cutting into the southern bank of Desborough Cut alongside the Thames Path and National Cycle Route would reduce the path’s green setting, and would displace the path in places, moving it closer to Walton Lane traffic. This would diminish a highly valued and much used amenity (and cause its entire loss for the duration of the works).

– Cutting into the northern bank would involve the removal of many mature trees.

– There was no proposal to widen Desborough Cut under the two bridges, which concerned nearby residents who have been flooded.

The validated modelling indicating that lowering the riverbed downstream would sufficiently increase the flow around Desborough Island offers a much more welcome solution for avoiding increase in local river levels and riverside flooding when the new flood channel operates.

Question 5

  1. The River Thames Scheme will provide better access to new green open spaces, connect people with wildlife and deliver a more sustainable travel network. How do you think we should provide better access to new green open spaces?

MM response:

The new green open spaces look excellent. Sadly we will be cut off from them in Weybridge, other than via the Shepperton foot ferry or main roads.

It would be wonderful:

1/ To be connected to the new spaces via a new pedestrian and cycle river crossing, a simple slender bridge from Desborough Island to the Shepperton bank, immediately north of the west Desborough Cut bridge, which links to the Thames Path.

2/ To enhance the riverside green spaces beside the Thames Path in the Desborough Cut / D’Oyly Carte Island area, and the path surface itself.  These are valued amenities that could do with some sympathetic care in line with the new open green spaces.

– The popular Desborough Cut stretch of the Thames Path / Cycle Route has become even more heavily used following the pandemic and lockdowns (when daily riverside walks meant joining a procession of people getting their outdoor exercise).

– The walked/cycled area of the path is now twice the width of the previous hardcore based path, and becomes extremely muddy and puddled in wet winter weather

– It would benefit from more stone surfacing to meet the needs of the increased use

– It would benefit from reduction of the self-seeded sycamore etc scrub along the riverbank, which has progressively obscured the river views in places.

– Some intentional planting of more suitable trees along the riverside would be welcome.

Question 6

  1. How do you think we could allow users of the new green open spaces to connect with wildlife?

MM response:

Trees and information about wildlife are essential.

Some board walks and bird hides would be very welcome and add great value.

Question 7

  1. How do you think we could create a more sustainable travel network in Surrey? For example, providing cycle/walking paths connecting places of work, schools, railway stations, and linking to other existing footpaths and trails, and so on?

MM response:

Better local linking via safe cycle routes and footpaths is much needed.

At Weybridge, people arrive heading west on the Thames Path / Cycle Route wanting to cross the river at Weybridge, and if too late for the privately run foot ferry have to retrace their steps to Walton Bridge.

It would be transforming to connect the existing Thames Path and National Cycle Route 4 to the new cycle/walking paths, via a new pedestrian and cycle bridge from Desborough Island to the Shepperton bank, immediately north of the west Desborough Cut road bridge.

This would link communities which are currently separated, and greatly increase the possibility of safe and green travel between them by cycle and on foot.

Improving safety:  National Cycle Route 4 through Weybridge currently moves from the Thames Path away from the river onto busy roads, with no proper cycleways, where there have been fatal accidents to cyclists (Balfour Road / Weybridge Road).

Question 8

We will need to balance these factors in the design we develop
– Access to new green open spaces
– More sustainable travel network
– Connection with wildlife

MM response:

This is a difficult forced choice: 1 & 2 are really a dead heat, and all are interconnected.

Green spaces and connection with wildlife are at a premium within the M25, and important for mental wellbeing and physical heath. We are very lucky in Weybridge to have the tranquility of Desborough Island, a natural green open space which is visited and valued by countless walkers and dog walkers, and the Thames and Wey riversides with their captivating wildlife, enjoyed by thousands.

Sustainably connecting a network of green open spaces would be a big win.

Increasing sustainable travel is essential.

Question 9

  1. While we are committed to providing green open spaces, creating habitats and increasing biodiversity, there may be areas where we need to balance these. We would like to know which of these you value most.

MM response:

Both equally important

Green open spaces are much more appealing when they are sufficiently natural and inhabited by wildlife.

Question 10

  1. Is there anything we should take into account in our scheme design?

MM response:

The need for interconnection, so that more communities have wider access to the new spaces and habitats.

Question 11

  1. Is there anything we should take into account in our approach to construction?

MM response:

Please minimise impact on residents’ use of existing amenities, such as the Thames Path, and the much loved and visited public meadows and footpaths on Desborough Island. We don’t want to be cut off from these!

And what is going to happen to the outdoor swimming at Shepperton?

Question 12

  1. Finally, is there anything else you think we should consider as we develop our proposals for the River Thames Scheme further?

MM response:

The River Thames Scheme has caused much concern for residents in Weybridge Riverside over the years. The feeling that other people’s flood problems are literally being dumped on our doorsteps via new flood channels. That our local green and natural spaces are being threatened by proposed construction works that would REDUCE the quality our green and natural local environment — removing the green riverbank alongside the Thames Path, taking away public parts of Desborough Island — while promoting the benefits of less flooding and more green spaces for residents of Spelthorne and Runnymede. 

We need to be sure that our lives in Weybridge are not going to be made worse by this very expensive project.

 

 

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